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By rmg (Sun May 07, 2006 at 09:42:27 PM EST) localroger, trolling theory, assault and battery, strip clubs, golf clubs (all tags)
i'm sure you all remember him. he was the guy who made the fiction section part of our collective and collaborative editorial misery some years ago at kuro5hin. obviously though, i have no interest in his fiction or his silly forays into trolling.

predictably, it's been his commentary on trolling that's caught my attention. mr. williams frequently equates online trolling with bullying, sociopathy, and violent crime in the real world. at first the comparison seems outlandish, but on reflection, something kind of rings true about it.

so i thought i would turn his equation around. rather than using the analogy to attack trolling, i figure, since i enjoy trolling online so much, i would probably get even more of a charge out of the real life activities localroger talks about, so i decided to investigate. my findings within:



the first and most important thing was to avoid being caught, so i drove to a neighboring city to reduce my chances of being recognized either during or after my little spree.

the first thing i tried was a sort of surreal type of bullying. basically, i got on a public bus, waited for an unsuspecting target (a pregnant hispanic woman, actually) and just went off on her in a bizarre incoherent rant. she was more than perturbed and i got kicked off the bus, but at the end of the day, i was only mildly amused by the episode.

the next thing i tried was antisocial behavior. i went to a nearby university and found a group of spartacists handing out socialist newspapers. so i joined them and helped give them out. this was actually remarkably boring.

after that, i needed some real entertainment. for this, i stole a game of monopoly from a department store, then went to a strip club and put monopoly money in the dancers' lingerie in lieu of tips. i have to admit, this was pretty god damned funny, but i could have landed myself in some serious shit if i hadn't gotten out when i did.

finally, it was getting dark and i was getting bored, so i went to one of those used sporting goods places, got a cheap five iron, and beat the hell out of a homeless guy. fore! actually, i felt pretty bad about that and the guilt took most of the flavor out of the experience. somehow i couldn't shake the feeling that this guy didn't deserve it.

well, i should explain. when i ran into the guy, he tried to sell me some kind of newspaper. not wanting the damn thing anyway, i proposed a trade: one of my socialist newspapers for whatever the fuck he was peddling. i tried to explain that the workers united would never be defeated and that the only way he would raise himself out of poverty was through revolutionary action, but he became hostile. eventually he started calling me a commie and that's when i decided this was the homeless guy i wanted to beat. still, i think a little gramsci goes a long way toward explaining his psychological condition, so i don't think he was entirely responsible for his sassiness -- hence my misgivings.

anyway, my experience was in most respects fairly unrewarding. ultimately, i was only able to screw with the dregs of society, since i'd've almost certainly gotten arrested if the woman on the bus had been white or if i had hospitalized a businessman instead. one of the great things about internet trolling is that people of some reasonable social status and education willingly walk into it, simultaneously providing moral cover and much more satisfying victims. meanwhile, there's nothing criminal going on and no one is seriously hurt, so there's not too much to worry about or spoil the flavor.

all in all, i've found localroger's analogies somewhat hollow. at the same time, though, the experience i've has shown me a different perspective on trolling. for example, given what i've noted above about the social and educational standing of the potential victims the internet offers, why am i still hanging around here? perhaps my sentimentality is robbing me of a much more rewarding experience available elsewhere...

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damn those spartacists! by gzt (4.00 / 2) #1 Sun May 07, 2006 at 10:04:07 PM EST
they're everywhere and it's impossible to get a genuine rise out of them. and, unfortunately, they get so much self-righteous publicity when they get arrested for shouting nazi slogans on private property. bah.



kuro5hin.org ------> by debacle (2.50 / 2) #2 Sun May 07, 2006 at 10:28:41 PM EST


"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie



your mom must be very proud {nt} by clover kicker (4.00 / 1) #3 Sun May 07, 2006 at 11:04:32 PM EST




lol trolling theory by Big Sexxxy Joe (4.00 / 1) #4 Sun May 07, 2006 at 11:27:58 PM EST
Those spartacists are anti-social.  Didn't Christopher Hitchens used to be one?

I'm like Jesus, only better.


i don't know. by rmg (4.00 / 1) #5 Sun May 07, 2006 at 11:34:42 PM EST
spartacists always struck me as more leninist than trosky-ist, but i'm no expert on the sectarian subdivisions of amongst marxists as hitchens claims to be, so i'm not really sure.




[t]rolling retards conversation, period.
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I was right behind you by martingale (2.00 / 0) #6 Sun May 07, 2006 at 11:37:29 PM EST
until you mentioned the strip club.

Sorry, my suspenders aren't strong enough for that belief.
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You don't believe in strip clubs? [nt] by debacle (2.00 / 0) #11 Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:07:49 PM EST


"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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no by martingale (2.00 / 0) #13 Mon May 08, 2006 at 08:43:47 PM EST
None of the clubs I've been to are really long and straight and blare out musak all day long. It just isn't attractive, for a club, IYKWIM.
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In all seriousness by Oh Well (2.00 / 0) #7 Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:31:17 AM EST
The thing that cracks me up about localroger comparing trolling to homicide and other ridiculous claims is that he seems to forget that he himself authored a piece of incestual pedophilic fantasy in disturbing detail. Unlike his claims, which have no scientific basis, people who write extensively on father-daughter rape ARE disturbed people who tend to commit crimes.



+1 by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #8 Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:59:07 AM EST
Pure rmg.




This seems familiar by Gully Foyle (2.00 / 0) #9 Mon May 08, 2006 at 05:31:39 AM EST
Haven't you written about beating a homeless guy for this kind of reason before?



actually, yes. by rmg (4.00 / 1) #10 Mon May 08, 2006 at 09:40:37 AM EST
my history with this theme is long. when i first started about three years ago, i wrote a comment in an unrelated story in which i claim to have killed an old homeless woman on the street with a four foot plumbing wrench and describe it some detail. ever since, i've used the notion of beating up homeless people rather frequently, on the premise that it is a pretty repugnant and violent activity that one stands a very good chance of getting away with, lending a certain plausibility to it.




[t]rolling retards conversation, period.
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Dude by dmg (2.00 / 0) #12 Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:40:58 PM EST
I'm really confused.... again.
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oh, what's bothering you? by rmg (2.00 / 0) #14 Mon May 08, 2006 at 09:25:56 PM EST
would you like to talk about it?




[t]rolling retards conversation, period.
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Oh the usual by dmg (2.00 / 0) #15 Tue May 09, 2006 at 03:18:00 PM EST
Dupe account confusion issues.
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